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| - | Ce sont les traductions des descriptions | + | Semi-Automating the DDTP translations: |
| - | * Non prioritaires en période de rush | + | |
| - | * Il y a néanmoins BEAUCOUP | + | **Rationale** |
| - | * Vous pouvez les traduire sur https:// | + | *The DDTP represent around 50 000 strings to translate * 140 languages= 7 million strings to translate ! |
| - | * Une interface ludique et intuitive pour voir les descriptions importantes à traduire: http:// | + | *On good weeks, a typical yet active translation team translates 500 strings. It would take a hundred weeks with highly motivated volunteers of a large translation team, working non-stop, at their best to fully translate a language. |
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| + | **The solution** | ||
| + | *Delegate initial translation to Google Translate and review translations with humans to speed the process. | ||
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| + | **A Word of Caution before beginning** | ||
| + | *Machine translations don't replace (yet) human translations. It needs to be validated and corrected in many cases. | ||
| + | *Depending on the target language, the quality of the translations will fluctuate. (e.g. French, German, Spanish...) should work well. Smaller languages might have more issues. | ||
| + | *Another factor is the complexity of the strings. You'll have really good translations for simple strings and poor translations for poorly written or complex | ||
| + | *Finally, DO take time to do a mass review of the translations after the initial import. Given the size of the DDTP, a simple find and replace can save dozens of hours of translation. | ||
| + | *Make sure your review team is closed and has strong standards to avoid validation of poorly translated strings by too enthusiastic members | ||
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| + | **Process** | ||
| + | - 1/ Preparing the DDTP for Machine Translation | ||
| + | *Ask for a Launchpad | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Gather the .po and .pot files in a folder on your drive | ||
| + | *We had to split the DDTP universe po in 14 files and main in 5 files to make it match Google Translator Kit's size requirements. You'll have around 14 files in UNIVERSE, and 5 in MAIN but 1 in MULTIVERSE (use MULTIVERSE for tests) | ||
| + | *Use the Python script below created by Redmar to split the po files in files below 900k | ||
| + | *http:// | ||
| + | *Gather the translated po files on a shared online folder and split the work between team members. | ||
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| + | - 2/ Perform the Machine Translation | ||
| + | <REPEAT FOR EACH CHUNK OF THE FILE> | ||
| + | *Import the file in Google Translator Kit : http:// | ||
| + | *You might see errors: | ||
| + | *the file might be too big (remove a few strings) | ||
| + | *After a couple of seconds, Google Translator Kit displays the file along with automatic translations. You could theoretically review them here, but that's not the point. | ||
| + | *You should fix some mistakes directly in Google Translator Kit thanks to its powerful search and replace functionnality that can be limited to translations only | ||
| + | *The \n (line break) become | ||
| + | *The \" become \ " (with a space) which messes everything | ||
| + | *Check the po file validates in Poedit (do more fixes directly in Google Translator Kit if there are many mistakes) | ||
| + | </REPEAT FOR EACH CHUNK OF THE FILE> | ||
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| + | - 3/ Bring back the suggestions into your drive | ||
| + | Download all the translated po back to your drive or your shared online folder in a specific folder (named translated to avoid messing up with original files) | ||
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| + | - 4/ Do mass-Replace of obvious mistakes in each file to be able to import them back into Launchpad and also save a lot time when correcting the strings | ||
| + | *DO NOT CORRECT ORIGINAL ENGLISH STRINGS: if you do so, Launchpad will consider those new strings (as now they differ) and thus discard the string AND your translation. | ||
| + | *Use Gedit syntax coloring to quickly spot mistakes | ||
| + | *Use RegEx to correct as many mistakes as possible before initial import into the Bogus Project. The Time Savings are HUGE. | ||
| + | *Make sure that the PO file validates (using PoEdit) | ||
| + | *It seems that Google Translate adds spaces after \ . | ||
| + | *The \n (line break) become | ||
| + | *The \" become \ " (with a space) which messes everything | ||
| + | *The syntaxic coloration in gEdit highlights the mistakes well. | ||
| + | *It might create bugs during the launchpad import as "" | ||
| + | *Strings that you should also be careful for (Global) | ||
| + | *Any word in English in the translated part | ||
| + | *The beginning of your string should be capitalized (Paquet, Interface...) | ||
| + | *Consistency in similar strings | ||
| + | *Punctuation and Typography rules (spaces..) | ||
| + | *Typos in the original strings should be reported as bugs against the DDTP (https:// | ||
| + | *Strings that you should be careful for (French specific) | ||
| + | *http:// | ||
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| + | - 5/ Import the PO files back in our bogus project in Launchpad | ||
| + | *We can't import them as fuzzy in the DDTP, because Launchpad doesn' | ||
| + | *We have thus created a cross-language project. You shouldn' | ||
| + | *You don't have to merge back the files before uploading (http:// | ||
| + | *Import the DDTP pot files (templates) | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Import the various automatically translated chunks (next chapter) | ||
| + | *Wait for the files to be accepted and imported | ||
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| + | - 6/ Review Process | ||
| + | *Go to the DDTP, the imported translations in DDTP automation bogus project should appear as suggestions | ||
| + | *Ask for forum members to do a first review for obvious mistakes and make suggestions | ||
| + | *Then, team members can make the actual review and validate the translation | ||
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| + | **Additional Advice** | ||
| + | *Focus on validating high-priority and high-impact packages first | ||
| + | *Using Nightmonkey, | ||
| + | *http:// | ||
| + | *http:// | ||
| + | *http:// | ||
| + | *Focus on mass validations & low-hanging fruits first | ||
| + | *For validations, | ||
| + | *French Specific (you can take inspiration) | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : "this package provides a module for" | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : KDE translation updates for language | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
| + | *Done by Sylvie : "KDE translations for language " | ||
| + | *https:// | ||
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| + | **Bring back the validated translations in the Bogus Project** | ||
| + | *To simplify mass corrections, | ||
| + | *The manually reviewed suggestions will replace the automatic suggestions, | ||
| + | **Recycling fuzzy translations from older releases (contact Redmar for more details)** | ||
| + | *When you merge the translations of an older version of Ubuntu into the current version, there will be a lot of « fuzzy » translations for strings that are similar (for example, meta packages for different programs, debugging symbols etc). | ||
| + | *msgmerge quantal_ddtp.po raring_ddtp.po -o merged_ddtp.po, | ||
| + | *Those fuzzy strings often only need a few small changes (eg. program name) to be accepted, which can really speed up translations. And you don't have to worry about google putting in a weird translation, | ||
| + | *You have to unfuzzy them using Find & Replace in a text editor. Remove the line with #, fuzzy. Save. Upload. | ||
| + | #. type: newglossaryentry{# | ||
| + | #: frontmatter/ | ||
| + | #, fuzzy | ||
| + | msgid "bla bla english" | ||
| + | msgstr "bla bla translated" | ||
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| + | **Status, Results, Todo, Bugs & Questions** | ||
| + | *Results | ||
| + | *Todo & Bugs | ||
| + | *Create a DDTP automation LP team and invite coordinator for each language | ||
| + | *Questions | ||
| + | *Your question here | ||
| + | *Status for French | ||
| + | *Main | ||
| + | *6000 suggestions to generate, splitted by Pierre, 5 parts, translated and merged | ||
| + | *Restricted | ||
| + | *Translated manually, not applicable | ||
| + | *Multiverse | ||
| + | *300 suggestions to generate, likely technical & difficult, Splitted by Pierre & Merged | ||
| + | *Universe | ||
| + | *14 parts, translated and merged | ||
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